tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post3214840986645338974..comments2023-10-24T08:52:10.043-05:00Comments on Grumpy's Hollow: The Grump's Opinion: Proposed Dining Changes for 2008 Part IIIAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17070035707769272213noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-35768660862154179932007-11-12T09:33:00.000-06:002007-11-12T09:33:00.000-06:00David,I agree, it's no longer a big deal. But, at...David,<BR/><BR/>I agree, it's no longer a big deal. But, at first blush, it appeared that this might be a global policy change. <BR/><BR/>If that had been the case, then it would've been a big deal.<BR/><BR/>I too am typically in the 20% camp. So a mandatory 18% means that my waiter will get 2% less. I tend to follow the same policy that my customers did to me. If I added the tip, they didn't add more.<BR/><BR/>Plus, I tip on the pre-discounted amount.<BR/><BR/>I worked in one place, where I got a free meal for working there but I still got waited on. I always left a tip equal to the amount of the meal if I had to pay for it. <BR/><BR/>The wait staff loved waiting on me because most of the other employees left nothing even though they had to be waited on like any other customer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070035707769272213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-82572654941584664022007-11-12T09:29:00.000-06:002007-11-12T09:29:00.000-06:00I don't think it's that big of a deal. I have the...I don't think it's that big of a deal. I have the DDE and always leave 20% as a tip anyways. To me the 20% discount pays for the tip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-88194680788429641402007-11-10T20:44:00.000-06:002007-11-10T20:44:00.000-06:00Thanks John!I hope you don't think I was questioni...Thanks John!<BR/><BR/>I hope you don't think I was questioning the validity of your sources. <BR/><BR/>I just have found that it's nice to hear more than one prominent Disney Community Member to say the same thing before I take it as fact.<BR/><BR/>So, I'm happy that you gave your source here on Grumpy's Hollow :) Now people will know without a doubt where your info came from and it's straight from the horse's mouth and cannot be argued withAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070035707769272213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-41449621926130197092007-11-10T19:22:00.000-06:002007-11-10T19:22:00.000-06:00I got a letter earlier from DDE clarifying that it...I got a letter earlier from DDE clarifying that it is just for DDE members. The stated purpose is to bring it in line with other dining plans (by which I assume they mean DDP). Which is a crock of you-know-what. DDE and DDP are two completely different programs. One is pre-paid and one is cash on the barrel. One encourages guests to order the most expensive entree to maximize the value. The other is used mostly by locals who enjoy dining at the Disney property. (Locals who I hope will push back and ask to have the gratuity left off their check.)<BR/><BR/>I'd like to make a second point. That a gratuity is just that a gratuity. It's optional. If it's not optional then it's a service charge, should be labeled as such, and should be charged evenly across the board to all customers. \<BR/><BR/>Since it's a gratuity, if the 18% is on the check presented to you, you can (and should) request to have it removed and tip according to your own feelings about the service. I especially recommend this to DDP guests who order high priced meals in order to make the cost of the DDP seem worth it. It's not the guest's fault that Disney and the Cast Member union negotiated to not include tips in the DDP. If anything, the real cost to the guest is $40 a day. So the total tip for that whole day should be $8 a person. Why not just drop that off at Guest Relations at the beginning of the day and let them sort it out.<BR/><BR/>I know that's a bit of a rant. But it's Disney who created this mess of a dining program, not me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-87250043678271851732007-11-10T12:25:00.000-06:002007-11-10T12:25:00.000-06:00Here, here!Here, here!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023449275486420957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-37810626607360380782007-11-09T20:48:00.000-06:002007-11-09T20:48:00.000-06:00Thanks Anonymous for the correction. It tells you...Thanks Anonymous for the correction. It tells you how deeply I've researched the DDE Card. I didn't go farther than 20% and alcohol is included.<BR/><BR/>I have updated my post to reflect this new information.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17070035707769272213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3700469527242530776.post-90312168673892528842007-11-09T20:38:00.000-06:002007-11-09T20:38:00.000-06:00Two quick comments:You state: "Since my wife and I...Two quick comments:<BR/>You state: "Since my wife and I are going to MouseFest sans Dining Plan, the extra 20% will come in handy with all those counter-service meals we'll be reviewing...er...enjoying." The DDE card is good at Table Service restaurants and lounges primarily. It is only good at counter service locations where there is no table service restaurant - Port Orleans: French Quarter, the value resort food courts, and Animal Kingdom (though that will probably change next year with Y&Y opening and Tusker House becoming table service).<BR/><BR/>Second, Lou Mongello's out to sea at the moment, on his Disney Cruise, so it may be a few days before he can help shed some light on things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com